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Aug 9, 2021Liked by Gavin Giovannoni

Many of us with MS will remember how washed out we were during the time we had glandular fever / mono. If EBV (the mounting evidence suggests it is) is driving CNS-compartmentalised inflammation and relapses, then it is probably the main cause of fatigue. Getting rid of EBV (anti-viral) / getting it under control will likely have the most impact in reducing fatigue.

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Since I use Methylphenidate twice a day, I have my life back a little bit.

Without Methylphenidate I have microsleeps from 11 a.m. and my day is worth nothing. The advantage of Methylphenidate and not falling asleep during the day is that my sleep is more compact at night and I do not wake up and lie awake for hours and fall asleep again.

It's not a miracle cure, but I'm happy with it.

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Great article, Dr G! I try to exercise 4-5 times a week and also use a CPAP, along with Ritalin. I am a 51y/o male diagnosed 30 years ago EDSS of 6.5 with significant brain atrophy. I shudder to think how much worse my fatigue would be if I didn't treat with proper sleep and exercise. I also take fampridine which hasn't helped with walking speed but may still have a positive effect on fatigue by improving conduction in the brain.

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My fatigue has been the most disabling that I have ever experienced over the last month or so. Perhaps a result of the perfect storm - stress levels have been high, previous relapse symptoms have reoccurred, weather temperatures have been high and second AZ vaccination in amongst all this! Had bloods checked by neurology dept (am on Tysabri so part of regular infusion checks) and at GP. Nothing obvious coming up except slightly low platelets and urine check indicated a non-symptomatic UTI. No sign of inflammation detected. So it's just a case of working through it till it improves?

Also wondered if you might be able to address hearing loss associated with MS. I was tested and found hearing loss around 9 years before MS diagnosis ( but also had other MS symptoms present pre-diagnosis). Wear hearing aids to help but find that, besides loss of ability to hear at certain frequencies, that even when I can hear volume well enough I have difficulty making out what is being said in conversations ( not a typical hearing problem I presume?). Is there any kind of diagnostic test that might assess the auditory nerve performance similar to the evoked potentials test for the optic nerves?

Hearing impairment as an MS symptom is apparently relatively rare but no one seems to be engaged with following up with this. It can be quite disruptive as it impairs your ability to socialise and communicate so can have a significant impact on quality of life

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My experience - testing for thyroid comorbidity is not sufficient in most countries.

A quick TSH and if you are lucky, free T4.

However in the presence of DIO1 and DI02 genetic variances which reduce conversion to free T3 - the hormone that actually does the work - these numbers can be fine for a long time.

Given that the main symptoms of low T3 is temperature sensitivity and fatigue (sounds like MS!), I would really encourage free T3 testing as well.

I’m completely disabled without my T3 containing thyroid meds. Without, my T3 drops to low normal or below. Even low normal, I can barely move.

I would especially consider this with patients who have low body temperatures - hot weather is that much hotter and disabling when your temp is 95 F (35 C).

EBV and thyroid - also closely related.

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Loving these symptom focused articles - incredibly accessible and very useful, especially to the many of us who are pretty much left to manage our disease ourselves.

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The best intervention for treating fatigue seems to be HSCT. Some people have their scores on fatigue scales go from max to normal levels.

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Thank you for this it’s excellent.

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I use THC-oil in the evening,, great for Spasticity and I almost never wakeup in the middle of the evening. When I do wakeup I fall asleep so much faster. This helped me a lot with my fatigue. Now the following might not help for most pwms, but for me it helps when I eat plenty of complex carbs. I am in the diet game for 2 years now and tried a lot of diets and I seem to do best on 3 meals with complex carbs. I do fast for 16 hours every day. So if you notice your getting fatigued from fatty meals/ on Keto diet, you can give the opposite a try. Not drinking more than 3 cups of coffee before 12 am also helps, bit obvious but a caffeine dip is no good when you have MS. When I do get fatigued it is always between 11:30 am and 4pm. I can feel pretty fatigued at say 3pm and feel almost energised at 5pm. Really crazy, please share if you experience the same and or have an explanation.

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I'm confused about how to fill the sleep scale

Chances of dozing off while reading or watching tv after 9pm are moderate or high

Before that the chances are almost zero

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