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TiltInMyCerebellum's avatar

Data privacy is a huge concern, regardless if this is a made up scenario or not… People should consider sharing this kind of data very, very carefully. Another comment I would make is that anything that goes through Google wouldn't get any data from me, because Google cares not about anyone's privacy, quite the opposite. As usual, it would entirely depend on who made the app and what the data privacy contract is like, (and whether or not it is a policy that people can actually understand without having a lawyer present).

The convenience and immediacy is nice, but having been a Technologist who has studied the social implications of technology in my masters (and considered a PhD in it with approved samplings before MS made that unfeasible], I can firmly say that'd all technology comes at a significant cost. People always look at the shininess of the convenience and benefits, and not at the losses, some of which only become profoundly apparent a decade or more later... as we can see unfolding with social media being used to interfere with elections in the west. It would be wise to deeply consider how such a platform could go wrong, could be co-opted, or could be problematic if the data were't perfectly secure, and what costs it could potentially have for its users, not at the outset but years down the line. The same applies to wearables that track sleep, exercise and other data that could be used against someone in ways not yet imagined, without deep thought. Insurance companies inThe US asking users for this data for "cheaper rates" for those who stay fitter, should be a gravely concerning example.

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Oh gosh, no surprise so many of us thought it was about a real service, I'll speak for me alone,

Why the heck are we not building this service?

Why the heck are we stuck with a 1953 health care provider model in the UK?

We really believed this service existed and many of us are still coming to terms with the fact UK healthcare provision in the 21st century has somehow got stuck in 1953

The service or app seems to address the big stuff we need as well as the big stuff healthcare professionals might need..

We clearly lack professionally curated, targetted, accurate information about the disease and treatment , diet or lifestyle/activity options

- especially info targetted to our specific current individual experience of this multifaceted unpredicatable disease and potential future paths - this would solve much of that..

yeah it's all on the internet..

bit like that needle I'm looking for is in the haystack ! So how much of this internet searching returns accurate evidence based info?

How much could a patient be expected to research every paragraph on every site?

How much could we be objective.. or eliminate our bias, ignore our emotional drivers, set aside the pain or fear... to mindfully digest and act on the appropriate information in an appropriate manner?

And yah, MS trust is fab, OMS likewise, National MS society, but they're all largely aggregators that simplify and present information from others.. as well as that the patient needs to know their needs (pause and think how many of really do know.. we have little to no genuine evidence much of the time) and be able to navigate and understand and evaluate multiple sets of complex information at volume.. then reach a correct decison, even at the last it's all for nowt if we do not have the wil/means/capacity to act on it..

We clearly lack real time evidence based health measures

- devices to do this are now affordable and available through the 'internet of things' or in this case probably a smartwatch to monitor and record multiple systems while automatically sending to a database.. databases can be secure and accessible to those that need access

Healthcare professionals are human and work in a dysfunctional system

- every forum is a series of heartbreaking questions from people after diagnosis who have health care teams, asking things likewhen should I have an MRI, is there any medicine for spasms and so on, I've been offered aubagio as my only choice.. somewhere between what the guidance is what is delivered there are large, life changing gaps..

Health care professional are not (all) good coaches

- yes some coach, and even better a few are genuinely good at it..

there are already well used coaching systems through online services and if we dare admit, games. advertising and scial networks that create positive behavioural change

Social support, we used to call them 'friends', haha

- it's so much better when we're not on our own, again the systems already exist and are in mass use for so much else.. there are a few atempts in the MS world, but it's all so haphazard and takes a lot of savvy or prior experience from the patient to gain meaningful interaction or benefit

Performance measurement and patient awareness of that performance

- Yesssss, surely one of the sinking stomach realisations as a patient is when asking a question about your hospital or care team on a forum, multiple folks pop up and say, oh yes they're hopeless just keep on trying..

Not that anyones doiung a bad job or wakes up wanting to be an awkward unhelpful person, but at least where it is happening support could be given to improve and adopt best practice from other trusts or teams, it's about targetting support and help to get better outcomes.. not people ;)

MRI's - We clearly lack access and understanding of what they mean, besides blood tests and subjective experience they are literally the only evidence most of us have

- Why isn't there a central MRI repository that we can access?

Why isn't there analysis we could access, it's heartbreaking to realise no ones looking at an MRI and the anlysis can miss things

In comments there are lots who like me thought this was a real app and plenty of areas to explore and fear and reasons 'why not' to address - I think they're addressed above - but in short should it not be clear..

- Many people cannot use or have reliable access to a connected online device, yes there would need to be offline routes for those folks to access the service or supported use, this is normal for non commercial services and entirely achievable - letters are still sent, face to face appintments still happen - some of the things the NHS does overly well ;)

- Data privacy, there are already secure networks and systems that keep data securely and allow access only on aneed to know basis. Google is not involved. A problem is a lack of accurate data and a lack of formatting, access and analysis of data to generate useable insight that will imporve care practice and medicine..

- Most people will not have real time or any meaningful access to health tracking devices - The devices exist already that need close to, or zero patient input and can be distributed and maintained easily and cheaply

I'll stop, although there's much much more..

Lets support decent effort through initiatives like this from Dr G

It's about saying 'why not' because if we keep on questioning 'why', we'll just get more of the same and the outcomes that creates.. will continue to create.. for us, our families, friends , colleagues, and countless unknown others

On that note, how might I help beyond this effort beyond completing the survey?

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