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I was off antivirals last time I had Covid.

EBV Reactivated early 2022 - 6 weeks.

New quiet lesion August 7 MRI.

Got Covid end of August.

(All the drama both MS and neuro PASC - ten months)

Antivirals again in November and a good chunk of the fatigue reduced. Lytic reactivation slowed (stopped?). Immune system started rebalancing.

But the damaged B memory cells continued to cause issues (theory) until I started Kesimpta. Which tidied up both MS and clobbered PASC as well??!!?? (Monoclonal antibody).

In my experienced, old damaged cells must be cleared out as well. Mavenclad was the bomb for me however in Covid era, IRT is not working.

Bring on vidofludimus calcium (IMU838) which has antiviral, antiinflammatory properties and is currently in trials for RRMS, SPMS, PPMS - AND celiac disease. I know we shouldn’t get excited about pipeline drugs but if I could find one thing to manage MS and comorbid EBV AND celiac disease … well .. that would be cool.

Here’s the thing. There will never be good research funded because the valacyclovir that works well for me is not going to support a pharma drug company trial. What to do?

AND - what if it’s just a cohort of us? I happen to have the severity gene which is an area of viral control/damage restoration. Is it just us? Which could be a small proportion of those with MS.

But if we are managed properly - well after being considered secondary, I’m now doing better than I have since 2012. (Also a ton of neuro rehab to fix then maintain gait).

Which means trials could literally show no statistically *significant* improvement.

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Nov 22Edited

One more observation …

Here is a list of pharma I’ve taken, prescribed or recommended by MS neuros, for fatigue/pain or cognition.

Cymbalta

Pregabalin

Gabapentin

Amitriptyline

Nortriptyline

Ritalin

Modafinil

.. probably more I can’t remember.

All but the modafinil were disastrous.

Off label meds I’ve been lucky to take that worked well on **all of those symptoms** with no awful adverse effects, via brave GPs. All three of these a hard pass from neurologists.

Acyclovir

Valacyclovir

LDN

My question:

Were there actual trials for list 1 ever in the MS population?

If not, how did they become commonplace scripts from our neuros despite being off label?

Last, how on earth do we move the sometimes incredibly useful list 2 to list 1?

Genuinely curious if somehow the MS patient community could play a role.

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